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kocicek 07/06/2022 20:27
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"Not" Boris 07/06/2022 20:27
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kocicek 07/06/2022 20:29
tl;dr this is a room for coord/daycare communication. If you see an FC/TC/SC doing some stupid ass shit let us know. If you see someone who is doing good work also let us know 😛 @Klexos handles day2day ops, @CAISH basically just gets assigned shit that i need help with, and @Vex does entosis/training shit 😛
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"Not" Boris 07/06/2022 20:30
re: Jacky He needs a boot in the ass about a few things that I’m sure vex has already addressed 1. Comms discipline when there’s 20 people in command. Ie only speak when you have something extremely important, you’re the direct backseat, or you were spoken to 2. If a coord tells you to shut the fuck up, do it before he smacks that mute button 3. Let the FC, FC
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"Not" Boris
re: Jacky He needs a boot in the ass about a few things that I’m sure vex has already addressed 1. Comms discipline when there’s 20 people in command. Ie only speak when you have something extremely important, you’re the direct backseat, or you were spoken to 2. If a coord tells you to shut the fuck up, do it before he smacks that mute button 3. Let the FC, FC
admire mirriri 07/06/2022 22:56
Aye
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Klexos 07/06/2022 23:37
Out of curiosity and for context what purpose was he fulfilling while was he in command comms? @"Not" Boris
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"Not" Boris 07/06/2022 23:38
We intentionally went with a deep bench of backup FCs, he was one of them
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4 FCs all of which got headshot at least onceKekDisco
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My immediate backseat was sonerir
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Klexos 07/06/2022 23:42
Cool beans, just wanted to make sure
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snipereagle1 07/06/2022 23:43
We would have been kinda fucked, except vex had the galaxy brain thought to go buy a monitor in jita
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galaxybrain
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"Not" Boris 07/06/2022 23:50
We’d have been fine, i still had my trusty ibis eyes
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CAISH 08/06/2022 00:08
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snipereagle1 08/06/2022 00:10
greetings caish
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CAISH 08/06/2022 00:22
hola
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Vex 08/06/2022 01:02
btw sonreir did a great job
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I felt like all the backup fcs were kinda useless outside of him
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"Not" Boris 08/06/2022 01:03
even the main FC was useless lets be honest
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Vex 08/06/2022 01:03
see and here I was.. just trying to enjoy a fleet in no chatter in my trust kiki KEK (edited)
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snipereagle1 08/06/2022 01:03
idk man those probes were choice
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Vex
see and here I was.. just trying to enjoy a fleet in no chatter in my trust kiki KEK (edited)
"Not" Boris 08/06/2022 01:03
I saw you and immediately couldnt allow that
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Vex
see and here I was.. just trying to enjoy a fleet in no chatter in my trust kiki KEK (edited)
TheAdj 08/06/2022 01:04
I do this sometimes just to fly a ship in fleet without being noticed
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Vex 08/06/2022 01:04
that was my goal
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but alterari spotted me and the hostiles shot me first immediately on landing
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TheAdj 08/06/2022 01:05
lol
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yea you gotta do it with an alt that isn't known
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as long as we aren't shooting old PL people I can generally go unrecognized on most of my alts
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"Not" Boris 08/06/2022 01:06
!lookup no chatter moving forward before undock skink
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kocicek 08/06/2022 01:06
coord has lookup now? dafuq
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Vex
but alterari spotted me and the hostiles shot me first immediately on landing
jackbeard 08/06/2022 01:41
I get headshot by PH all the time
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Some bozo set me red
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If I’m in a vigil I still get shot by the fleet
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"Not" Boris
re: Jacky He needs a boot in the ass about a few things that I’m sure vex has already addressed 1. Comms discipline when there’s 20 people in command. Ie only speak when you have something extremely important, you’re the direct backseat, or you were spoken to 2. If a coord tells you to shut the fuck up, do it before he smacks that mute button 3. Let the FC, FC
admire mirriri 08/06/2022 05:05
I remember last time jacky planed to do something in gef. He asked notalvin in global key probably for help or something . I heard that and asked what is his plan then he replied “I’m not looking for you”. After that he ping himself with telling anyone in jabber about his plan until we asked 😂
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snipereagle1 08/06/2022 17:53
just gonna post ultra's ping here: Shout out to Haansu Mikairu, NotAlvin and DarkKiller for showing Deveron how to FC. https://br.evetools.org/br/62a0d187d89ea605bf0d379e Good work team ~ ‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍ ~~~ This was a capital_commanders broadcast from ultra_cow to all at 2022-06-08 16:49:41.853566 EVE ~~~
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https://br.evetools.org/br/62a0d187d89ea605bf0d379e
V-3YG7 (Catch), GE-8JV (Catch) 2022-06-08, 17:00 ET
Battle involved 198 pilots who lost a total of 6.32b isk
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jackbeard 08/06/2022 17:53
what happened
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snipereagle1 08/06/2022 17:53
horde kiki fleet was trying to ref an ansiblex
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and fed hilariously
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jackbeard 08/06/2022 17:54
no how the fuck do you lose all your kikis
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TheAdj 08/06/2022 17:54
lmao wiped by harpies, how embarrassing
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jackbeard 08/06/2022 17:54
and only kill like 14* harpies (edited)
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kocicek 08/06/2022 17:55
it was hilarious
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Emily Fireangel 08/06/2022 17:55
(18:53:25) haansu_mikairu: they warped to us (18:53:31) haansu_mikairu: and jumped into us
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TheAdj 08/06/2022 17:55
that sounds like a perfectly deveron thing to do
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gonna hijack other peoples ops for a ~surprise stratop~ then slide right into the woodchipper
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snipereagle1 08/06/2022 17:56
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Emily Fireangel 08/06/2022 21:05
Darkkiller with acidf backseat (still fighting but its 10%) tidi -> beginning issues with keeping focus on his own fleet, fixed it by himself with giving more work away -> doing good maneuver while tidi, outside of bubbles ready to get out with his fleet, keeping the fleet in range for the ammo
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"Not" Boris 11/06/2022 17:53
@kocicek my man’s is killing this whole learning thing
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CAISH 11/06/2022 21:38
No bullshit he is my up and comer
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Like i would want him as baby FC
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He would flourish
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"Not" Boris 11/06/2022 21:41
hes holding my pocket right now, im pinging him every fleet i run to sit in cmd with me and backseat
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CAISH 11/06/2022 21:43
sooo you are doing what i was doing months ago
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check
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now ping and have him just do the whole fleet with you there looking pretty
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that is how i had him running hacs months ago
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"Not" Boris 11/06/2022 21:44
I mean its not really a competition of who did it first, but hes front seating the hacs and getting the experience that he needs and desires
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CAISH 11/06/2022 21:45
humor!~!!!!!
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i dont really do competitions you know this
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but yes i like him much
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you are still a cutie though dont worry 😛
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"Not" Boris 11/06/2022 21:47
lmao text makes humor so hard
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"Not" Boris 12/06/2022 23:22
1. sonreir target calling, needs to increase his target calling tempo outside of tidi. 2. he froze a bit and i had to take over target calling. 3. i learned how to drive muninns into a wall to kill a drake
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"Not" Boris
1. sonreir target calling, needs to increase his target calling tempo outside of tidi. 2. he froze a bit and i had to take over target calling. 3. i learned how to drive muninns into a wall to kill a drake
snipereagle1 12/06/2022 23:26
you didn't have to learn #3, you were just showing off 😛
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"Not" Boris
1. sonreir target calling, needs to increase his target calling tempo outside of tidi. 2. he froze a bit and i had to take over target calling. 3. i learned how to drive muninns into a wall to kill a drake
kocicek 12/06/2022 23:32
did either of you learn how to not feed muninns to cerbs?
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"Not" Boris 12/06/2022 23:33
i mean the only real feeding happened when we dove for the hacker and lost 16 munnins in trade
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kocicek 12/06/2022 23:34
are we looking at the same timeline 😛
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Emily Fireangel 13/06/2022 09:26
Generally feedback, we have a lot of hunting fcs atm which is amazing for the line member. They love to kill shiny toys. But the fcs always ping coord when they need the ping like rn. Maybe they could do a headsup of who's around the next hour or Smth so, especially me, would look closer for pings.
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I dont need to know where or with what eyc. Just that they need somebody around the next hour or so
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pICkleSmash 13/06/2022 10:24
This would be amazing since windows like that close fast as hell.
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kocicek 13/06/2022 13:39
That’s not really a viable thing. They are looking for targets basically 24/7. All of our hunting fcs have ping rights for this specific reason. If coord isn’t around when they request a ping they have been instructed to ping themselves after 1-2 minutes for a target.
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Plus if they ping letting you know it also lets any spy in the channel they ping you in know that there are whalers hunting
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Ruining opsec.
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Emily Fireangel 13/06/2022 13:47
I saw tretrakill always waiting that's why I thought bringing it up.
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TheAdj 13/06/2022 13:56
I would turn that into a feature request for the fleet app
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kocicek 13/06/2022 13:57
Tetra has ping rights for this reason
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But also yes good idea
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TheAdj 13/06/2022 13:57
that way the people in the know can see if others are doing stuff
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without broadcasting it widely
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kocicek
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Emily Fireangel 13/06/2022 14:25
Okay wierd didnt see him ping himself then sry :P
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kocicek 13/06/2022 14:26
no problem. adj had a good idea from it so op success
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admire mirriri 13/06/2022 14:38
i think they can pm coords if need pings privately. It works well without issue
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hunting fleet only
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TheAdj 13/06/2022 14:39
yea but they dont know who is active
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TheAdj
yea but they dont know who is active
"Not" Boris 13/06/2022 14:49
All 3 of us?
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KekDisco
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I think honestly tetra is scared/hesitant he’s going to get in trouble if he pings himself and if an adult reaffirms him he’ll get comfortable with pinging coord then pinging himself
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TheAdj 13/06/2022 14:52
im honestly not too concerned about 'spies' in sc/ops, hostiles are so fucking lazy they just watch for the ping and then send something
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see: just now
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"Not" Boris
All 3 of us?
Natalya Tsero 14/06/2022 15:57
3 ? Ickle/me/emily/Alterari/admire/sniper/kocicek/guy = 3 🤔 interesting math (edited)
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kocicek 14/06/2022 16:33
im not a coord
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im an fc director who fills in gaps when i see them 😛
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Natalya Tsero 14/06/2022 16:58
-1 =2 ?
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pICkleSmash 14/06/2022 19:39
{Ickle/me/emily/admire /guy/sniper/}{Alterari/ kocicek} = 2 Fixed it for you @Natalya Tsero
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kocicek 14/06/2022 20:17
why do you have an empty set first?
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kocicek
why do you have an empty set first?
"Not" Boris 14/06/2022 20:18
Does your back hurt?
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i know mine does, splitting the weight of the imperium on our backs like this cant be healthy
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kocicek 14/06/2022 20:19
ya my back is killing me. ever since sniper got on it i've been struggling
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"Not" Boris 14/06/2022 20:19
yeah i couldnt imagine, thats a lot of dead weight
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kocicek 14/06/2022 20:20
never would have made it if you weren't the one carrying adj
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"Not" Boris 14/06/2022 20:21
sometimes we gotta do thankless jobs like this
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kocicek
ya my back is killing me. ever since sniper got on it i've been struggling
snipereagle1 14/06/2022 20:24
go back to writing your krabbing manifesto
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kocicek 14/06/2022 20:24
our* krabbing manifesto
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snipereagle1 14/06/2022 20:24
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kocicek 14/06/2022 20:24
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kocicek 15/06/2022 21:16
mowie hard cucked apple's fleet today would not put him in any position of relevance in fleets
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snipereagle1 15/06/2022 21:19
oof
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target calling?
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kocicek 15/06/2022 21:21
ye
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on our 2nd target
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we were shooting 4 different broadcasts
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snipereagle1 15/06/2022 21:22
pepe_christ
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target calling is probably something that all of the TC's could use a chat about how to do properly. been on a few fleets recently where they just pick one speed and keep doing that whether it works or not
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kocicek 15/06/2022 21:25
its something that you have to learn by doing
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snipereagle1 15/06/2022 21:26
agreed
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but
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to learn by doing
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you have to understand how to recognize when it's not working 😛
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kocicek 15/06/2022 21:30
true
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"Not" Boris 15/06/2022 21:39
an overview on tempo, and when/what to shoot wouldnt hurt as well as key indicators that lead up to knowing its not working ie start fight alpha hac, about 5 minutes in youre still killing them but theyre catching so you swap and knock down a few logi then go back to hacs etc
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kocicek
mowie hard cucked apple's fleet today would not put him in any position of relevance in fleets
Natalya Tsero 15/06/2022 22:31
just to add to this he was not in monitor and got headshot kind of went down hill from there getting pods killed to reinforce was a task and took way to long to get guys back into ships and into the fight . the moral of the fcs was stupid low and line members 100% picked up on that. cerbs got mass and was able to kill things marine was happy at that point apple lost most of the fleet under no falt of his own it was a blood bath but again moral and attitude was a little off communication between fc was lacking @Guy Games anything else i missed that you noticed on this ? (edited)
22:32
haansu was on point today i know it was reinforcements but he was checking fleet ap and pushing people into the right direction
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Guy Games 15/06/2022 22:33
Nothing else I can think of, it just felt that the fc's attitude and Moral rubbed off on the line members a little but it picked up towards the end. Haansu was awesome. And I think Apple expected Mowie to be more experienced then he actually is
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kocicek 15/06/2022 22:42
ya you can only do this exact thing 30 or 40 times before fatigue sets in. it's pretty clear that we are reaching the end of the FC's tolerance to do this exact thing 2-3 times a day every day
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Natalya Tsero 15/06/2022 22:44
im only doing what the channel name says sorry if thats wrong i understand burning out is a huge thing, but at least let me ping the fleet out to see if anyone else would like to take it he offerd to take it before the ping went out (edited)
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kocicek 15/06/2022 23:31
I mean as is we got there with about 30 seconds to spare. If we waited for another fc
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We lose the ihub
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Natalya Tsero 15/06/2022 23:31
no
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kocicek 15/06/2022 23:32
Ok lmao.
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"Not" Boris 15/06/2022 23:38
Aykiria — Today at 12:06 PM fi.re just called a max cta, most likely going for the jammers? Dark Shines — Today at 12:07 PM @ coordinators start forming please, we are rage formibg Alterari Phoenix — Today at 12:07 PM There was no waiting
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kocicek 15/06/2022 23:39
Its fine. Not worth wasting breath on. If he thinks we had time he’s welcome to have that opinion. We did not.
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kocicek 18/06/2022 17:43
If any fc breaks the structure shoot policy please ping daycare here. 😛
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"Not" Boris 18/06/2022 17:44
But your DM’s are warm and comfy
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kocicek 18/06/2022 18:15
That works too. They are just gonna get headshot out of the fc orgs for a month
"Not" Boris started a thread. 21/06/2022 15:32
Klexos started a thread. 29/06/2022 10:47
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Natalya Tsero 29/06/2022 16:11
Mr 'G took ferox fleet to hit structure When dropped on froze up and didnt know what to do in panic warped most of his fleet to the out gate would watch out for him not to mention fleet comp he left with was questionable he has more vigils than ferox's 😐 https://br.evetools.org/br/62bc6bfbcbfaf000f89b4f25 (edited)
DT-PXH (Tenerifis) 2022-06-29, 17:01 ET
Battle involved 68 pilots who lost a total of 1.18b isk
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snipereagle1 29/06/2022 16:16
After ferox died or is that what he undocked with
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kocicek 29/06/2022 16:16
i mean im pretty sure that's his first fleet ever so idk why we sent him out in ferox 😛
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kocicek
i mean im pretty sure that's his first fleet ever so idk why we sent him out in ferox 😛
Natalya Tsero 29/06/2022 16:17
no clue
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snipereagle1
After ferox died or is that what he undocked with
Natalya Tsero 29/06/2022 16:17
that was from what i understand what he undocked with (ok he undocked with 50 and then 10 vigil came after he was out ) (edited)
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snipereagle1 11/07/2022 08:47
Johanna and sonreir both balled out tonight
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admire mirriri 11/07/2022 10:40
Why?
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kocicek 11/07/2022 15:19
sonny is a good egg
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gonna be an official fc soon
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"Not" Boris 11/07/2022 15:20
Pepe_Heart
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snipereagle1 11/07/2022 16:49
To clarify my feedback they were fantastic
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kocicek 11/07/2022 16:56
i understood it.
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snipereagle1 11/07/2022 16:56
Yeah that was for admire and @CAISH
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Kaziem 11/07/2022 16:57
Yeah Sonreir has a really polished and professional style - I like it a lot.
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snipereagle1 11/07/2022 16:59
Johanna probably has some work to do on the actual spaceship skill side, but his communication is fantastic. Last night was a show of that
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"Not" Boris 11/07/2022 16:59
before i died, johanna was killing it
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ1EIq1X3ytHQt6h5XcAcsypjFxdaolBI
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heres sonreirs playlist
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of fleets with comms
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snipereagle1 11/07/2022 17:00
aPES_WTFEyes
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Kaziem 11/07/2022 17:00
Yeah I had work and had to head out. I know the transition from fleet to fleet was smooth af.
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"Not" Boris 11/07/2022 17:00
every fleet hes run, is in there
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comms all included
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command+him
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admire mirriri 17/07/2022 14:39
acid took eagles to help DC and I do backseat. ultra do caps. The plan was let DC get in first to fight then we get in next. acid's computer has issue and kept dced in the start. So I plan to do warps and anchor when aries do target calling before acid is back. Also, acid doesnt have an alt to scout and rely on fleet members and me to scout for him. We killed some scimis and munnin which is great. https://br.evetools.org/br/62d4051f306c74071c5936aa (edited)
3L3N-X (Tenerifis) 2022-07-17, 13:00 ET
Battle involved 226 pilots who lost a total of 7.99b isk
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Klexos 17/07/2022 22:45
Thank you for the feedback admire 🙂
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snipereagle1 25/08/2022 23:21
@FC Daycare i'm really REALLY tired of doctorr tnt trying to sneak through a sturm ping
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kocicek 25/08/2022 23:23
how many times has he done it
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i just see logs of him saying stupid shit
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snipereagle1 25/08/2022 23:25
vex had a conversation with him the other day iirc
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it's been a thing for months
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Vex 25/08/2022 23:31
its been addressed.
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snipereagle1 25/08/2022 23:32
thanks vex
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snipereagle1 15/09/2022 20:23
today on doctorrtnt -- he was running a krab beacon and pinged for a ferox fleet on himself to do the save. not sure how i feel about that
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@FC Daycare ^^
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Jac Dracon 15/09/2022 20:27
yesterday he also was trying too provoke a fight by baiting with his dread sitting in ops com and continued doing so even after gnome told him off
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snipereagle1 15/09/2022 20:28
watwow
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Jac Dracon 15/09/2022 20:39
(11:11:23 PM) gnomagin_dallocort: jac_dracon: permision to kill blues? (11:12:01 PM) jac_dracon: as much as i would like commissar no (11:12:08 PM) gnomagin_dallocort: lol hes back (11:14:22 PM) gnomagin_dallocort: doctorr_tnt pls stop doing dumb stuff before the last question becomes a yes (11:14:33 PM) doctorr_tnt: dont worry (11:14:40 PM) doctorr_tnt: all part of the plan 😛 (11:15:11 PM) gnomagin_dallocort: if you dont have a cap fc with suport thats a shit plan (11:19:53 PM) doctorr_tnt: better than no plan
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kocicek 15/09/2022 21:06
just tell him no and watch him die 😛
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Jac Dracon 15/09/2022 21:34
just FYI i will take that as gospel 😈
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Jac Dracon
yesterday he also was trying too provoke a fight by baiting with his dread sitting in ops com and continued doing so even after gnome told him off
Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 15/09/2022 22:15
Jac 9/13- "Come on you guys are the content creators!" Jac 9/14 - "Not like this..."
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Some need a heavier hand than others brother stay strong
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Jac Dracon 15/09/2022 22:17
i feel burned now 😄
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Jac Dracon
i feel burned now 😄
Mr Ranger 15/09/2022 22:53
congrats, your officially a coord
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Jac Dracon 26/09/2022 16:20
(4:52:49 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: LordofReclamation is running some great fleets fyi (4:58:27 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: ok 🙂 (5:06:50 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: can elaborate on that in any way 🙂 (5:14:45 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: Couple things. He's got a lot of lowsec fleet experience so he's familiar with tactics we dont run into much here in null. He's got outstanding grid intuition. For example, in the latest fleet where we were chasing FRT/MOHIST gang we warped to a gate and there were two GSF Lifs trying to warp off but they'd been bubbled by the FRT guys. Lord got us between FRT and the LIfs to draw fire allowing the LIfs to clear the bubble and warp off. He's also very communicative wit his fleets. Consistent in messaging, direction, commands etc. Always broadcasts and voice commands so theres no confusion what we are doing. He's consistently gotten "great fleet" comments from fleet members. (5:16:14 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: thank you 🙂 (5:16:40 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: yw. he's gonna make a very fine GSF FC one day. I hope coord keeps an eye on him and encourages him (5:17:35 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: i will check him out if i have time i do not pay that much attention too peacetime fleets so thank you for that feedback 🙂 (5:17:59 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: great. thanks.
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kocicek 26/09/2022 16:37
i too had noticed this
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glad the line members agree
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he runs some fun fleets
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Natalya Tsero 28/09/2022 15:05
Feedback on princess Abbie So 911 was pinged "(9/28/2022 1:31:59 PM) viserion_pavarius: !bping all something is getting tackled in 0-H" princess Abbie send HD fleet in sc he was pinged out, FC on the ping disconnected and was passed over to his alt, from the sounds of it he was also running another fleet with his other character when his FC character reconnected and got the fleet was capped at 30 preventing people from getting into the fleet, the link in the ping was redirecting people to command 2, not command 12 his backseat was in command 2 with the more pilot so information was not getting to us when getting on grid turns out the scan given was incorrect and hostiles had 122, not 30 as dscan stated when hitting grid he was headshot asked for backseat to take over and was nowhere to be seen as he was sitting in command 2 with everyone else
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 14/10/2022 06:21
got to send phoenix snow some love, he swung up and listened to tetra - end result is a solid double rorq save with a brawl at the end https://zkillboard.com/related/30004299/202210140400/
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got to send phoenix snow some love, he swung up and listened to tetra - end result is a solid double rorq save with a brawl at the end https://zkillboard.com/related/30004299/202210140400/
Sonreir 26/10/2022 18:18
Phoenix is on my radar along with a couple of others. Haven't gotten a chance to witness much first hand (time zone issues), but I hear good things.
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(4:52:49 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: LordofReclamation is running some great fleets fyi (4:58:27 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: ok 🙂 (5:06:50 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: can elaborate on that in any way 🙂 (5:14:45 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: Couple things. He's got a lot of lowsec fleet experience so he's familiar with tactics we dont run into much here in null. He's got outstanding grid intuition. For example, in the latest fleet where we were chasing FRT/MOHIST gang we warped to a gate and there were two GSF Lifs trying to warp off but they'd been bubbled by the FRT guys. Lord got us between FRT and the LIfs to draw fire allowing the LIfs to clear the bubble and warp off. He's also very communicative wit his fleets. Consistent in messaging, direction, commands etc. Always broadcasts and voice commands so theres no confusion what we are doing. He's consistently gotten "great fleet" comments from fleet members. (5:16:14 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: thank you 🙂 (5:16:40 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: yw. he's gonna make a very fine GSF FC one day. I hope coord keeps an eye on him and encourages him (5:17:35 PM) [email protected]/3gwe34t8wb: i will check him out if i have time i do not pay that much attention too peacetime fleets so thank you for that feedback 🙂 (5:17:59 PM) [email protected]/2zi86x9am2: great. thanks.
Sonreir 26/10/2022 19:39
He's probably going to be my next recommendation for TC, but he has a couple of issue to resolve: 1.) He frequently undocks with a shoddy comp. 30-man Flycatcher fleet, 14 of which are actual flycatchers and then 1 logistics or no boosts. I've spoken with him about this and he acknowledges the issue and will work on it. 2.) A week or two back he pinged for Supertrains and the fleet got mulched. I asked him about the circumstances and he told me to talk to another FC who "took over his fleet". I doubled-down because I wanted his assessment, and his response was basically, "I said you should go talk to FC". This is the first time I've had any attitude issues with him, but it's worth keeping an eye out. We all fuck up and sometimes people fuck up on our behalf, but we can't get too defensive or it will stimmy our learning. I haven't spoken to him about this as I'm hoping it's a one-off.
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Jac Dracon 26/10/2022 20:10
it is only something that someone told me in a pm , he was also in his corp so take that one with a grain off salt 🙂
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like i would say there is potential but before he is ready too take on tc fleets he needs some mentoring
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Jac Dracon
like i would say there is potential but before he is ready too take on tc fleets he needs some mentoring
Sonreir 26/10/2022 20:15
Agreed
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snipereagle1 28/10/2022 19:01
I don't know who princess abbie is, but it's hilarious in this fleet that he keeps giving a command and Doctor TNT immediately overrides it. 🙂 "Shoot the supercarrier wreck" "Absolutely do not shoot the wreck" "bubble on the wreck at zero" "do not bubble the wreck"
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Sonreir 28/10/2022 20:15
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I don't know who princess abbie is, but it's hilarious in this fleet that he keeps giving a command and Doctor TNT immediately overrides it. 🙂 "Shoot the supercarrier wreck" "Absolutely do not shoot the wreck" "bubble on the wreck at zero" "do not bubble the wreck"
Foffy123 28/10/2022 20:46
when an immovable object encounters an unstoppable force
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 04/11/2022 09:29
PLA's Jason Yusi requested a ping with a solid plan. He seems nerveous do to language barrier, but with Johanna Cellsplitters bs support he was able to hard dunk a bad rorq. He showed great timing and mechanical prowess by waiting for the rorq to be off a rock and securing the kill quick. Love to see it in ghost tz https://zkillboard.com/kill/104402155/
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pICkleSmash 04/11/2022 09:47
I have nothing but good to say about Jason with my prior dealings. As you said, his biggest issue is thinking language is a problem, but he’s always been clear and understandable on fleets I’ve joined. Truly an asset to the AU/CN timezone.
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admire mirriri 04/11/2022 10:54
Jason always do good fleets including fcing main hac fleet for DC and dragon fleet. I encouraged him not to afraid of speaking English. Finally he made it to this step.
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CAISH 04/11/2022 12:53
This makes me happy to read, please pass to him that I said keep up the great work!
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pICkleSmash
I have nothing but good to say about Jason with my prior dealings. As you said, his biggest issue is thinking language is a problem, but he’s always been clear and understandable on fleets I’ve joined. Truly an asset to the AU/CN timezone.
Sonreir 04/11/2022 15:24
We have need of FCs who can speak more than English. Let's not let this be a barrier to his success.
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snipereagle1 04/11/2022 15:50
That’s not what ickle said. Sounds like Jason is worried about it but we are not
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Sonreir
We have need of FCs who can speak more than English. Let's not let this be a barrier to his success.
pICkleSmash 04/11/2022 16:18
don't get me wrong, I agree completely and he has been an active FC with Dragon Fleet. I only meant it as his own perceived weakness. I'd like to see him more often as he is a valuable member to our community and timezone. His language isn't a weakness, but to show that he does critique himself (not an ego thing).
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snipereagle1 07/11/2022 01:08
@Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop had something to post here from earlier, now doctor TNT is trying the "mom said no lets see what dad says" and asking to take a peacetime fleet into pochven
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 07/11/2022 01:17
Utilizing dms to ask questions hoping for a different answer is kind of a bummer
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Foffy123 07/11/2022 01:20
tbh i didn't think he was actually pinging mainfleet
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he dmed me and i said i don't care what he does to horde
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bad meme
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snipereagle1 07/11/2022 01:25
(6:06:59 PM) [email protected]/desktop: what's the fight? (6:07:11 PM) [email protected]/6iht82i4gg: in Otela, horde astrahus timer (6:07:17 PM) [email protected]/6iht82i4gg: actually multiple timers (6:07:20 PM) [email protected]/desktop: no (6:07:29 PM) [email protected]/desktop: the "no mainfleets in pochven" rule is very simple (6:07:47 PM) [email protected]/6iht82i4gg: i see (6:07:56 PM) [email protected]/6iht82i4gg: is there a forum post with this rule?
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snipereagle1 07/11/2022 01:45
lol he went on his own
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https://br.evetools.org/related/30000157/202211070100
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Klexos 07/11/2022 02:59
I feel like we just lifted his suspension a couple months ago… from the last time he did some really dumb stuff
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Sonreir 07/11/2022 05:14
I mean, technically, it wasn't mainfleet. Lol.
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(and died)
Sonreir 07/11/2022 06:18
To the citadel
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 09/11/2022 01:23
@admire mirriri the work you are putting into edge is paying dividends, he's a beast keep it up
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admire mirriri 09/11/2022 01:39
He is being active in beehive and hd. He is getting more experience
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I hope there will be more sc being active in Autz. I will keep finding potential people to do more work 👍
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admire mirriri
He is being active in beehive and hd. He is getting more experience
CAISH 09/11/2022 09:51
As always you are awesome
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Sonreir 20/11/2022 15:44
Was gnomagin ever considered for FC and if so, what else did he need to work on?
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Havish "H" Montak 20/11/2022 16:47
He was ops and got demoted in May for the same sort of reasons as acidf and darkiller
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:24
Last i knew gnome was on the tc to promote soon list along with dark. Dark got promoted, not sure why gnome was givikg more.time at tc
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They were ops and.lost that when the three tier system was remove . Now that we got the three tiers put back in they were on their way back up (edited)
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:27
its on my list of things to do but eventually we are gonna have spot with files on fcs so we know who what when and why people were promoted demoted ect.
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:27
Gnome wss doing a decent number of hac fleets. I was not same.tz at the time so did not get to really see much on preformance side
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its on my list of things to do but eventually we are gonna have spot with files on fcs so we know who what when and why people were promoted demoted ect.
CAISH 20/11/2022 18:28
I take it koci didnt turn these over when he left
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:28
assuming they existed in the first place
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:28
He had a tracker between klexos myself and him during that time period
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Would you want me to see if i can recover a copy
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Or you just want to start fresh
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Same with training stuff and guides. Vex and rere had taken that on for action. They made it seem like they had a good part of it done
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Then rere left
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And so on and so forth
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:31
i mean at the very least would like to see what was already done and see what can be salvaged ect.
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:32
I figured you all had these things from them. (edited)
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It is always my assumption you all talk more between each other than to me haha
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apple pear 20/11/2022 18:33
Zintage was not near any FC director stuff before a few days ago. So yeah.....
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Zintage was not near any FC director stuff before a few days ago. So yeah.....
CAISH 20/11/2022 18:34
Never said he was. But i take it from that statement that those who left took their work with them
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@Zintage Enaka i will see what i can recover bud.
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Foffy123 20/11/2022 18:34
i don't really get the sense that any of those three left in an organized fashion
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:35
the most they did was not take everything from the hangars 😛
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:36
Maybe @Sonreir @Havish "H" Montak or @Darkk had some interaction before they left. Either way i will see what i can provide
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I will update you either way
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Darkk 20/11/2022 18:42
None, we weren't really daycare until Vex left and after we were 100% focused on the rework of the forum posts
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:44
Fair
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Darkk 20/11/2022 18:44
I do think gnome should be an FC since the motives (kocicek) for him to not be are gone, and has been pretty active recently
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I do think he can improve on certain things like fleetcomp but the rest is FC level imo
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:45
Kocicek was not the one who got rid of ops and soft "demoted" people
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But i agree on gnome i think. You and gnome were the top tcs to repromote at the time
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:46
I'm generally happy to repromote him i just wanna see him a little more active first
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CAISH 20/11/2022 18:47
Gnome also showed the ability to learn from mistakes as seen in cerbs and during gef
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I believe gnome has been working a good bit with bomberwaffe as of late
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:47
he has done a little yeah i can see their pings 😛
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Darkk 20/11/2022 18:51
He's been doing the moveops for the deployment, also helped with beehive subcap duty and backseated mifune yesterday for the sotiyo thingy
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I'll get him to do more fleets
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I'll get him to do more fleets
CAISH 20/11/2022 18:51
Sounds good
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I like how gnome treats the fleet and the willingness to work with others
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Darkk
I'll get him to do more fleets
Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 18:55
i like his current activity i just wanna see it continue rather than it just being a phase kinda thing
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Sonreir 20/11/2022 18:57
WTB HR Director lol
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Need to start keeping personnel files
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Darkk 20/11/2022 19:01
I won't interfere then, let's see if he keeps the activity by his own
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Darkk
None, we weren't really daycare until Vex left and after we were 100% focused on the rework of the forum posts
Sonreir 20/11/2022 19:12
Pretty much this. After vex left I asked kosi what I could be doing to help keep the mentorship program moving. He asked me who I wanted to work with and I told him I was already working with dark and havish. He then moved all three of us into daycare and then went his own way.
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Pretty much this. After vex left I asked kosi what I could be doing to help keep the mentorship program moving. He asked me who I wanted to work with and I told him I was already working with dark and havish. He then moved all three of us into daycare and then went his own way.
CAISH 20/11/2022 19:12
thank you for the context . that makes more sense now tbh
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also @Sonreir i enjoyed your wall of text which started with sun tzu. I heard some of my own words in your voice :p
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Darkk 20/11/2022 19:13
wtb resuming lessons for sonreir
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also @Sonreir i enjoyed your wall of text which started with sun tzu. I heard some of my own words in your voice :p
Sonreir 20/11/2022 19:13
I do my best to take my lessons to heart.
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wtb resuming lessons for sonreir
Sonreir 20/11/2022 19:13
Same
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CAISH 20/11/2022 19:14
a lot of what we were just discussing is more for Daycare channel, so I will cease spamming the feedback with that convoy. If i find any of the stuff they were working on I will update in teh FC daycare channel
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CAISH 20/11/2022 22:48
gnome did well in a non-standard fleet and strat
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stayed cool and used their resources
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Zintage Enaka 20/11/2022 22:49
caish you can chill man hes on the list lol just wanna give him some time cause i didnt see him active for a bit
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CAISH 20/11/2022 22:49
chill?
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i was just typing some feedback from the fleet i was just on before i forgot to
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3 am here so i am about to crash dear
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just wanted to type it up before i forgot to provide feedback
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CAISH 26/11/2022 14:50
@Jac Dracon were you there for his whole fleet
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Jac Dracon 26/11/2022 14:50
yes
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CAISH 26/11/2022 14:50
If so and if you have time. Write something up about that guys performance. sounds like things were well done
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that was Drop admirals right?
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Jac Dracon 26/11/2022 14:52
yes Drop admiralis he needs some work he is really green but in general good performance with some guidance he will make a good fc
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CAISH 26/11/2022 14:53
yeah i had not really heard of that name before.
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from his tone he seemed to have had a good experience
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i will put him on my radar
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Jac Dracon 26/11/2022 14:53
he communicates with his fleet no freezing with changing circumstances
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CAISH 26/11/2022 14:53
nice
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Jac Dracon 26/11/2022 14:54
and for like his ~3 fleet i would say that is really promising
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pICkleSmash 26/11/2022 15:51
Yesterday, Edge and I talked to him about a delve911 ping he tried to respond too. Our focus on learning was the need for fast response with 911 calls, and why Edge took the lead with him as backseat. He's very welcome to criticism and ways to better himself. That's about Drop Admiralis as well. I wanted to take extra time with him since he's an SC and was showing initiative.
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yeah i had not really heard of that name before.
Sonreir 26/11/2022 18:40
I was on one of his fleets yesterday. He mentioned it was literally his first fleet out where he saw any action. He had one before that was blueballs.
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Zintage Enaka 03/12/2022 22:51
This is a reminder to give feed back on fcs when you guys finish up the fight
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Mr Ranger 03/12/2022 23:33
johanna came into this fight not really knowing how to handle a bomber fleet in a tidifuck fest, we didnt get super great runs, but I feel like I passed what knowledge I could to him. He hadn't been on a bomber fleet as a line member, so was trying to figure it out on his own the best way to do runs. I'm not an expert, but I've been on enough decent bomber fleets over the last 10 years that I informed where I could. Definently got some work to do on what bookmarkts to try and get beforehand, but overall he definitely will be more competent going into the next one. We only had voids, but probably should have brough a bomb truck with thermal bombs given the space weather. We also didn't have a blops prestaged, which was frustrating, but we had one in thera and a hole close enough to make it work.
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Jac Dracon 03/12/2022 23:35
one off the reason we revived bomberwaffe too get that lost or hidden knowledge going again 🙂
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Sonreir 04/12/2022 00:30
Khunkao did great. He was assertive even when I accidentally got too excited and started taking over a little. Even though his knowledge is still developing, he felt like a real partner in the battle and not someone I was teaching or leading. Things were a little bit slow-paced because of the tidi and much of the target calling was being handled by global, so he didn't really get a chance to distinguish himself too much, though. I still continue to look forward to flying alongside him more. (edited)
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snipereagle1 04/12/2022 00:33
scs cronos and welwyn did great work (i've never heard of them before). cronos ran a clinic on screening off the paladins, and welwyn cleared off the f7c ansi that was getting reffed by hecates
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Sonreir 04/12/2022 00:36
welwyn has been doing pretty well. He's one of the SCs I'm keeping an eye on. Not familiar with Cronos though.
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snipereagle1 04/12/2022 00:37
another thing to note, one of the reinforcement fleets were told they "didn't have enough time to refit abs" when they got up to the fight
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Sonreir 04/12/2022 00:37
O_o
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snipereagle1 04/12/2022 00:37
so that might be why we lost a shit ton of eagles really quickly
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Jac Dracon 04/12/2022 00:39
they did not wait 1 system out too do it before i noticed there where already hitting system and in that system there was no way they could have refitted
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Jac Dracon 04/12/2022 00:50
there where a couple hic ups with the moving and flycatcher fleets in particular
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Jac Dracon 04/12/2022 00:58
but we had people out off the fleet step up and get things sorted after we lost 3 flycatcher fc in 2 fleets 😄
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welwyn has been doing pretty well. He's one of the SCs I'm keeping an eye on. Not familiar with Cronos though.
Havish "H" Montak 04/12/2022 08:21
Welwyn has been FC for years. He was afk for 3 years and came back again.
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Darkk 11/12/2022 20:56
Hi guys, I'd like to know your opinions on Mifune
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Sonreir 11/12/2022 21:05
I genuinely want to give the guy a chance, but it feels like he still oversteps his bounds too much. His fleet control is decent and he's made improvements with his interactions with fleet members, but he hasn't been put into a position in while where his judgment has been truly tested.
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Hi guys, I'd like to know your opinions on Mifune
Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 11/12/2022 22:05
He's arrogant, entitled and doesn't know his head from his ass on grid. Consistently Ignores all advice I've watched countless people try to give him over the last four years since lawn. Drunk fleets and meme feeds where he is quick to blame blues and reds alike for his repeated mistakes and slip in some offensive language. I've never seen any sc as disrespectful to peers, line, and higher ups.
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Zintage Enaka 11/12/2022 22:08
ok but has that been in the past 3-6months ?
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Darkk 11/12/2022 22:22
would like to hear @Jac Dracon @Mr Ranger @pICkleSmash inputs specially :p
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 11/12/2022 22:23
Then say that
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He's arrogant, entitled and doesn't know his head from his ass on grid. Consistently Ignores all advice I've watched countless people try to give him over the last four years since lawn. Drunk fleets and meme feeds where he is quick to blame blues and reds alike for his repeated mistakes and slip in some offensive language. I've never seen any sc as disrespectful to peers, line, and higher ups.
Darkk 11/12/2022 22:23
have you seen any better from him lately?
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I mean I want to hear from everybody that wants to lol
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 11/12/2022 22:24
I mean is it that unfathomable he's curating his behavior around you and zin now that you have authority?
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Darkk 11/12/2022 22:26
Not at all
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Is actually more annoying now imo :p
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Jac Dracon 11/12/2022 22:27
he is doing much better he is taking input and does what he is told if its strategic there is still a little bit off that personality but he is trying, i have given him some opportunities and it worked there are still things too be worked on but since he is taking feedback now it can be worked on
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and apart from the personalty stuff he is not blindly running into things anymore
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he is actually accessing situations and acts on that
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he even took it when i told him earlier that he is not going too fight mist but he can backseat not alvin without any comment
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so i would say that is definite growth
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Epofhis 11/12/2022 23:28
He has the kind of exuberance that can lead to engaging and fun fleets. Usually is one of the few that puts their hand up on the regular for HD or coord special project type jobs. Needs to calm down sometimes, I've watched him chase after several different objectives in the space of a few minutes on occasion. I haven't seen him be especially toxic yet, but then again a "Mifune drunk fleet" is a super Hard Pass for me. In general, he needs time, tempering, and skill rounding. If we're still saying that a year from now, then yeah... that's a problem.
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Mr Ranger 11/12/2022 23:38
The few fleets I have been on with him have been mostly fine. But the most recent experience I had with him had more to do with his unwillingness to take the 20 seconds to check op both alpha and bravo command before he choose an op channel. I think both fleets I have actually flew on with him in the last month or 2 were form ups, the target got away before we undock and stand down.
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 12/12/2022 02:26
He has enthusiasm and passion but I would like to see more "trying". Example would be pinging coord to report a wh and telling me I should really get hunters/fc/support on it going. Didn't have the heart to ask why a fc/founder of a proto whaling sig wouldn't want to do those things before sonrier shoved cerbs through the hole exemplify the doing attitude over telling.
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Sonreir 19/12/2022 18:41
Hey, team. I'd like to talk about gnomagin again. Any recent thoughts or interactions? What can he work on before we're comfortable with promotion up to FC?
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Hey, team. I'd like to talk about gnomagin again. Any recent thoughts or interactions? What can he work on before we're comfortable with promotion up to FC?
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pICkleSmash 02/01/2023 04:07
New SC that I'm watching. Bubu Aaron (FC Char - LWMS)... Not sure if he's held fleets before, but I just pinged his 1st (for me) fleet out. This guy is clear to understand and was calmly running the fleet in both CN and EN. I'd like to keep an eye on him. @Sonreir First ping is never anything special, but we could do with having more multilingual FC's. If he shows more than a pulse, I'd like to see what he could do in the future. (edited)
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snipereagle1 02/01/2023 04:10
i remember the name from a long time ago
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Sonreir 02/01/2023 04:10
Thanks, man. New name to me but I'll keep an eye out and check in with the other daycare dudes.
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apple pear 02/01/2023 05:12
I love people doing CN + EN fleets
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Sonreir 02/01/2023 17:39
Thoughts on Vladislav Matviienko? He frequently runs interceptors gangs and shows good fleet control and judgment. He also frequently acts as a hunter and snowflake in many of my fleets. I believe he is also a Russian language speaker.
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 02/01/2023 17:41
Vlad was clutch in war time and continues to be on point anytime I've worked with him. He likes to minimize his contributions and play humble.
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Havish "H" Montak 02/01/2023 17:55
Vlad is great at hunting and knows his way around FCing. You need to ask him if he wants to TC.
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Sonreir 02/01/2023 17:59
@Darkk or anyone else have any objections?
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apple pear 02/01/2023 17:59
Lets have @Zintage Enaka make final decision please
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apple pear
Lets have @Zintage Enaka make final decision please
Sonreir 02/01/2023 18:00
Understood. Under Koci it was Daycare who promoted to TC, which is why I didn't tag you, sniper, or he directly.
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Darkk 02/01/2023 18:01
Vlad is a good lad, I'm not sure he wants to go up though
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He mentioned to me like a year ago that he didn't want to become Ops or such
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Zintage Enaka 02/01/2023 18:05
Make a case then bring the suggestion to me sonreir
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Darkk
Vlad is a good lad, I'm not sure he wants to go up though
Havish "H" Montak 02/01/2023 18:08
This is what I meant when I said we need to ask his goals.
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Darkk 02/01/2023 19:08
Yepyep
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Mr Ranger 02/01/2023 19:23
Vlad has gotten argumentative/upset about his fleet being put on hold for strat fleets or something before in SC.
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I dont remember exact details, but i remember he had an altercation a few weeks ago someone else might be able to share more of
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snipereagle1 02/01/2023 19:25
he was running a welp fleet in SC comms that nobody knew about and got tossed out of a command channel or pinged over
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his CEO reached out to me complaining, and i told him to pound sand
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Sonreir 02/01/2023 20:56
Good to know. Thank you.
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New SC that I'm watching. Bubu Aaron (FC Char - LWMS)... Not sure if he's held fleets before, but I just pinged his 1st (for me) fleet out. This guy is clear to understand and was calmly running the fleet in both CN and EN. I'd like to keep an eye on him. @Sonreir First ping is never anything special, but we could do with having more multilingual FC's. If he shows more than a pulse, I'd like to see what he could do in the future. (edited)
admire mirriri 03/01/2023 05:32
He was tier 2 fc in DC but had a conflict with their directors. So he went to Country house. He said he will be more active because the Chinese New Year holiday is coming soon
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I told him to be more active. Same as what I told him six months ago before he went afk in early August.
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Vlad is a good dude. I put my thumbs up
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Jac Dracon 03/01/2023 21:30
lord_mike007/Theman JR seems to be one too keep a eye on,asks questions and eager too learn ,helps out with beehive and you can give him a task without having too explain too long whats it is about and clear communication skills
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snipereagle1 03/01/2023 21:33
the ping spam shit is exhausting
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Darkk 03/01/2023 21:34
I talked with him like 2 months ago, he's been FCing for goons longer than I have been in the alliance apparently
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just a bit sporadic, didn't tell me why
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Jac Dracon 03/01/2023 21:35
ex military retired who knows
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he also needs the skills too get into a monitor still and experience with bigger fights
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Epofhis 03/01/2023 23:02
Agreed, needs to work on his hurf but otherwise seems pretty competent and willing to help out.
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Sonreir 05/01/2023 18:39
So this was really impressive.... /sarcasm
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Mr Ranger 05/01/2023 18:40
this after sending the same bping coord 3 times in 5 minutes...
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Sonreir
So this was really impressive.... /sarcasm
Zintage Enaka 05/01/2023 18:40
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
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jabber light mode
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MY EYES
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Sonreir 05/01/2023 18:41
lol
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Sonreir
So this was really impressive.... /sarcasm
Emily Fireangel 05/01/2023 18:41
I had dinner was around before meh. But them bitching at each other was fun to read tbf
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Sonreir 05/01/2023 18:42
Honestly though... has it always been like this? It really feels like we have slim pickings for people I actually care to promote and it's making me kind of sad.
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Honestly though... has it always been like this? It really feels like we have slim pickings for people I actually care to promote and it's making me kind of sad.
Zintage Enaka 05/01/2023 18:42
prettymuch yes
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Mr Ranger 05/01/2023 18:42
more or less, the people worthy of getting promoted, get promoted pretty quick
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Zintage Enaka 05/01/2023 18:42
never more than 1-2 at a time
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Sonreir 05/01/2023 18:43
I guess we can do only what we can do.
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snipereagle1 05/01/2023 18:57
i decided to just send a dad ping instead of yeeting people out of SC
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Jac Dracon 05/01/2023 19:02
i think we disgusted him before passable fcing but does have a temper problem and as it seems a entitlement problem too
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i think we disgusted him before passable fcing but does have a temper problem and as it seems a entitlement problem too
Sonreir 05/01/2023 19:02
Skills and knowledge can be taught/learned. Attitude is very difficult to change.
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Darkk 05/01/2023 19:03
aka Mifune 😛
19:04
I guess we can have a talk with him and try to make him see how that shitty attitude will only make him get less fleets
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a bit nicer than what I just said ofc
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 05/01/2023 19:28
He's probably still a bit sour from my 3am interrogation, not excusing just saying it could be a factor in today's anti Coord sentiment
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Sonreir 05/01/2023 20:35
From my perspective, how people conduct themselves under pressure and when things aren't going their way is a bigger tell than how they act when all is good.
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snipereagle1 05/01/2023 20:45
thistbh
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Sonreir 08/01/2023 23:10
Got an Ops application in GICE, Skygod Horus. Did someone ask this person to apply? Accept/reject?
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apple pear 08/01/2023 23:11
is it gsf or ally
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snipereagle1 08/01/2023 23:11
Sigma. I have a list I’ll check
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Leave out for now
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apple pear 08/01/2023 23:11
I would just leave the application
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Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 16:43
@Coordinators From what I have heard microwavedrice is young and dumb and wanted to hear from you guys how young and dumb. I have not been on any of his fleets but have heard some complaints and read parts of stories some of which sound like it would be better if he be given a temp ban from sc
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never really got full stories so
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Jac Dracon 17/01/2023 16:49
i never attended one off his fleets he is 13 and i can only speak too behaviour on fleets him being member or other weird stuff i had too deal with regarding too him , i think ryohei back-seated him
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Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 16:50
I'll poke ryohei
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from what i have heard just sounds like the dude needs time to grow up a bit
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Jac Dracon 17/01/2023 16:54
when we did kill that hell for example i had too grab some filaments and we made a new fleet and he joined sitting somewhere in delve refusing too leave so i had too kick him too get the filament going . joining fleets in wrong ships and there was that thing with him bumping ships off tether in 1dq 🤷‍♂️
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pICkleSmash 17/01/2023 16:55
As a person, he has a problem with listening. Every fleet he has joined, he's been snowflaking. As an FC, he's 'gone for a walk' when things don't go as planned. He does need to grow up before anything, but not sure that'll come from a temp ban. I've been on 3? fleets of his and the trouble goes from walking off to not taking the input from others in command when asking for the information.
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As a person, he has a problem with listening. Every fleet he has joined, he's been snowflaking. As an FC, he's 'gone for a walk' when things don't go as planned. He does need to grow up before anything, but not sure that'll come from a temp ban. I've been on 3? fleets of his and the trouble goes from walking off to not taking the input from others in command when asking for the information.
Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 16:56
my thinking of temp ban in this situation is if you are still here in 6months to a year maybe you have grown up a little
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pICkleSmash 17/01/2023 16:56
fair enough 🙂
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Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 16:57
cause i know when i first started playing eve and fc i was 15 and i would consider myself annoying as fuck back then 😛
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pICkleSmash 17/01/2023 16:59
being annoying could be age or his personality, but in my mind... you don't bail on your fleet in hostile space because whatever. And if you plan on FC'ing (expected to follow someones instructions), you should follow them yourself.
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being annoying could be age or his personality, but in my mind... you don't bail on your fleet in hostile space because whatever. And if you plan on FC'ing (expected to follow someones instructions), you should follow them yourself.
Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 17:01
i agree but if it is age and not personality wouldnt really wanna never give him a chance later
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Darkk 17/01/2023 17:02
He's 13
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pICkleSmash 17/01/2023 17:02
don't get me wrong, I agree and hope he learns better actions. I don't hold his 'annoyingness' against him in any aspect. My issue is abandonment and teamwork (or lack of).
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Darkk 17/01/2023 17:03
Personality is gonna change like 5 times on the next years for him, and so far he just seems to be dumb because age
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I agree on the long temp ban
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Jac Dracon 17/01/2023 17:06
like him doing a roam fine for anything that involves more, simply not mature enough and it looks like people already voting with there feet
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Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 17:12
ryohei is writing me a book so we will see what he has to say if leaving his fleets when things dont go his way is regular I honestly wouldnt be ok with him even doing roams
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Zintage Enaka 17/01/2023 17:33
well i have received my book and now remember why ryohei is one of my favorites 😛
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Sonreir 17/01/2023 17:45
I'm in support of the temp ban. In addition to the information here, I've seen him leave fleets when asked to get into a doctrine ship. He's also pinged coord for doctrines that don't exist. He's pinged me personally to ask to take a fleet out, but then told me his mic isn't working. Not a bad kid, but just a real pain in the ass. Makes problems for himself and others in nearly everything in which he is involved.
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Sonreir 18/01/2023 17:17
So we want this done now or wait?
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Zintage Enaka 18/01/2023 17:24
yeah i have been a bit busy irl ill let him know
Sonreir started a thread. 27/01/2023 00:10
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Havish "H" Montak 21/02/2023 18:08
Bakemono Hine feedback.
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admire mirriri 16/03/2023 10:33
Interestingly, Jason Yusi in CNTZ has gain permit as tc in DC and leads Chinese fleets. Also, today Windy discussed about him with me. I passes the message in here
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Feel free to ask Windy =_=
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 20/03/2023 00:14
mifunes asked for a gatecamp fleet and immediately shot a staging ansi resulting in a heavy response. ignoring direct advice to have eyes ended with his fleet stuck in j-ci. After advising he use a ping to evac, asking directly if he had one and answering in the affirmative -h e proceeded to warp his fleet directly to the gate, into a bubble and chemo fleet. Shooting the ansi was to provide content and he expected a "fair fight" response to face his fleet. he had some other choice words when I offered some ways to help the war effort. 🤷‍♂️
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Sonreir 20/03/2023 01:12
remi tyldek continues to ignore information in the standing orders thread and is now advising other SCs on what to do (also in direct conflict with the standing orders thread). I have sent him a PM on Jabber and asked him to stop. He's getting pretty close to a time out.
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Sonreir 20/03/2023 01:23
I also have information from one of our coords that he pinged for a PM and then used it to ask to take a fleet out when there were blue timers coming out in 40 minutes. Remi was aware of the timers.
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I also have information from one of our coords that he pinged for a PM and then used it to ask to take a fleet out when there were blue timers coming out in 40 minutes. Remi was aware of the timers.
Havish "H" Montak 20/03/2023 07:00
The way I read this part about Remi is: He asked to take a fleet and was denied. Yes, he knew about timers but you can always ask. As long as you don't go against the response from coord.
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Sonreir 20/03/2023 13:14
Yeah, that's fair. I guess I'm not really inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's kinda been a pain in the ass, recently. And I don't think asking for a PM just to ask to take out a fleet is OK, though. Just ping the fleet.
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Sonreir 23/03/2023 23:03
We had multiple fleets out this USTZ evening. We reffed a few flex structures in X47 and UR-E. GSF ran Sacs with Slav FCing and we had a secondary fleet of Flycatchers run by Heinrich. Heinrich did an excellent job of screening multiple hostile fleets as well as skirmishing with them. He cleared gates for our reinforcements and also baited them out on a couple of occasions. He's doing very well recently.
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Havish "H" Montak 24/03/2023 15:57
Heinrich took over the target calling very quickly during Ninetale's engagement with Sib Squads. All in all, Nine tales did a good cyno drop on the hostiles at 0 and just as I thought we'd see a freeze up he called out for Heinrich to call targets and the fight went really well.
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Sonreir 27/03/2023 16:14
I've put an inordinate amount of time and effort into him, but I think I'm just about done with Mifune. Despite a highly visible standing orders thread, he continually asks me what he can go out and do. Today he asked to take Mallets to go reinforce some Athanors in Pure Blind. We don't even have Mallets on deployment and I literally updated the standing orders thread two days ago to specifically mention that medium structures are currently being handled by TCs. That, combined with Shoop's post from last week has me convinced that my efforts are better spent elsewhere. (edited)
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snipereagle1 27/03/2023 21:01
me: hey mowie be smart when you warp because they've been forming bombers when we have feroxes
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mowie: https://br.evetools.org/related/30004751/202303271900
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I've put an inordinate amount of time and effort into him, but I think I'm just about done with Mifune. Despite a highly visible standing orders thread, he continually asks me what he can go out and do. Today he asked to take Mallets to go reinforce some Athanors in Pure Blind. We don't even have Mallets on deployment and I literally updated the standing orders thread two days ago to specifically mention that medium structures are currently being handled by TCs. That, combined with Shoop's post from last week has me convinced that my efforts are better spent elsewhere. (edited)
Havish "H" Montak 27/03/2023 21:12
I don't blame you. He is a time sink. Please place the effort into people who can learn. I only step in with Mifune when people are being unfair and biased towards him. This past 6 months has been clean of bias and there is no improvement. He is due his quarterly review about now and nothing this quarter has improved.
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I don't blame you. He is a time sink. Please place the effort into people who can learn. I only step in with Mifune when people are being unfair and biased towards him. This past 6 months has been clean of bias and there is no improvement. He is due his quarterly review about now and nothing this quarter has improved.
Sonreir 27/03/2023 21:13
Yeah. I don't think he's entirely a lost cause, but I'll circle back around in six months or so.
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:46
FYI - Remi Tyldek has been given a warning regarding his continued pinging of coord in the SC channel (and now scouts) about ESSes and roaming gangs in Delve. He has been repeatedly told that these aren't a priority and he continues to bring it up. (8:25:51 PM) remi_tyldek: 3 reserve bank open in Delve (8:31:46 PM) remi_tyldek: !bping coord 3 reserve bank open in Delve LUA5 , CX8 & QC-Y LUA we have 1 golem & 2 NV other systems no idea (8:31:46 PM) ScoutBot: remi_tyldek requests the attention of: Asher_elias, Delta_flux, Snipereagle1, Icklesmash, Srsli, Officer_cat_voncat, Jac_dracon, Dahhhnlaaddd_shoop, Emily_fireangel, Mr_ranger, Nuramori, Epofhis, Brodog827, Apple_pear, Sktlandfill, Zintage_enaka Type !pingoff to disable your pings in this room or !pingnever to disable them everywhere. (8:32:04 PM) remi_tyldek: 4 Reserve (8:32:10 PM) remi_tyldek: Just 1 getting open right now (8:32:19 PM) sonreir: remi_tyldek: Please stop pinging about reserve banks. We are at war and don't care about these. It's a standing fleet issue. (83341 PM) sonreir: Also, please review standing orders for Skirmish Commanders. If you have questions, please let me know. If you don't have any questions, I am going to assume you understand the orders. Continued violation of them will result in your removal from the group.
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:48
sonreir we already said if there was nothing else going on these should be defended with alphas if anything you should be yelling at him for not pinging coord with a fleet instead
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:50
My understanding is that we were talking about blue structures and not the banks.
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:50
god no let the structures be rfed 90% of the time its 3 bombers that cloak if someone enters system
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:50
We offered a bounty on the banks. That's not for official fleets, no?
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:51
the bounty is for unofficial fleets that doesnt mean we dont send any official fleets
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we rather keep all our money if we can
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:51
My mistake then. I'll stay out of it.
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snipereagle1 03/04/2023 04:51
so the guy should get off his ass and ask for a fleet ping
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not bitch incessantly
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:52
^^
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again yell at him just yell at him for the right thing lol
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:52
And then yell at him again for feeding Feroxes to marauders. 😛
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:53
I mean they need to scout whats there to the best of their ability sure
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Sonreir 03/04/2023 04:53
So #3 in the standing orders: "Home defense fleets shall only be formed for extreme cirumstances - a coord will reach out to you if needed (don't call us, we'll call you)" Shall I remove or amend this?
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:54
it needs amended yes
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structures are still something we will ping people for but if nothing important is happening try and defend the ess
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we added abs to all the feroxes and ospreys already
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Mr Ranger 03/04/2023 04:56
ugh, on one hand i wanna see us deal with the reserve banks, but on the other i dont wanna have to babysit SCs trying to save them
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ugh, on one hand i wanna see us deal with the reserve banks, but on the other i dont wanna have to babysit SCs trying to save them
Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 04:59
make some tcs babysit 😛
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Mr Ranger 03/04/2023 05:00
boutta make an alpha rokh skillplan and see if we can have a combat effective ess defence alpha
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 05:00
staredog
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Mr Ranger 03/04/2023 05:01
my thoughts for ess defence is snowflakes in bricked up marauders go in and just tank and steal the isk
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and we dont bring ferox's in until we need to extract
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would let us drop a marauder in each key they are doing, and stop them when they are doing 5 at a time
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instead of just sitting in 1 while they steal 4 others
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that works when they have 1 golem in each one, and when they have 10 in one ess, you probably just ignore them if you cant bring rokhs
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it needs amended yes
Sonreir 03/04/2023 05:06
"Home defense fleets shall be formed for the following purposes: Armor or hull timers on structures, ESS reserve bank defense, rescue of blue capital ships. Ping coord and ask for an alpha fleet. Then include the reason for the fleet and expected hostile response. Be prepared to take "No" for an answer as we may have other things scheduled." Good?
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Zintage Enaka 03/04/2023 05:07
yes
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admire mirriri 07/04/2023 23:58
Heinrich did a great job tonight who stayed with the flycatcher/ cane fleet as backseat for ten hours. We put him in squad to focus on leading tackling fleet. He also formed a small flycatcher fleet in do6 and able to probe down the frt bubbler fleet and successfully killed them with edge's cane support.
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Havish "H" Montak 08/04/2023 08:57
acidf and sir yohnny did a great job in the phoons fleet yesterday. Constantly providing warp spots in range of the keepstar.
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acidf and sir yohnny did a great job in the phoons fleet yesterday. Constantly providing warp spots in range of the keepstar.
Epofhis 08/04/2023 14:52
I've also been impressed with Yohnny. I gave him enough chain to form a terrible comp a few weeks ago, and he was receptive to listening why things didn't go right and to take on board what I spoke with him about in the debrief. He has a solid grasp of mechanics and can follow instructions and remain calm. A definite asset in AUTZ where we can be light on quality FCs sometimes. Also works well in a backseat role. Has a good mentor/mentee relationship with weasle as well. Definitely one to keep training and investing time in.
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Zintage Enaka 08/04/2023 14:55
yohnny has always been decent he just always had the problem of autz not having alot of fleets to learn more than the basics
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Havish "H" Montak 09/04/2023 11:50
Johhny again with expert target calling https://br.evetools.org/related/30001967/202304091000
X47L-Q (Pure Blind) 2023-04-09, 10:00 ET
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admire mirriri 16/04/2023 16:18
edge and jason did their job as "meat shield", then other fleets can shoot other expensive ships. Edge made a right decision to pull off from nightmares to avoid heavy casualties. Edge relies on coords/init fcs' order then make decision by himeself. We want him more engage and make own decision in the correct timing. Jason needs to improve the target calling because some targets are in tether that cannot be shot. It is the first time they cooperate together in fleet so we have to give them some time to grow 🪴 We didnt kill the athanor but the br looks good in our side. https://br.evetools.org/br/643c02249851017958a337e9
QHJ-FW (Venal) 2023-04-16, 15:00 ET
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pICkleSmash 16/04/2023 16:22
Admire and I held a debrief with them too. We talked about those points above. I look forward to them working together more in the future.
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Mr Ranger 16/04/2023 16:27
To add on, there was a lot of dead air during the fleet, especially when we were engaged waiting on target calls
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Sonreir 16/04/2023 16:42
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Sonreir 08/05/2023 00:40
I was kind of occupied with my own stuff today, but how'd Toaster do during the WLF fight? Sounds like the 'canes performed well?
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 17:55
@Zintage Enaka https://br.evetools.org/related/30001967/202305261200 Heinrich FCing. Took out the X47 ansiblex while under attack from FRT AHACs.
X47L-Q (Pure Blind) 2023-05-26, 12:00 ET
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 17:56
im aware
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 17:56
Just making sure. 👍
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 17:57
at the same time why we gated canes from 1dq to there >.>
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 17:58
Not sure about the details. Maybe there was a WH. I also know that we usually require approval for JC green, so...
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 17:58
there wasnt
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 17:58
I think some mistakes are going to be made, even at a TC level. Hint, hint. 😄
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 17:59
he just got lucky alice pinged him
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 26/05/2023 18:00
#1 remi was a champ last night and continues to apply all the feedback to amazing effect On the sc front, tilt3d and new guy radu cpusan have some eager energy and positive vibes. Both need some honing but have been refreshing to have active👍
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#1 remi was a champ last night and continues to apply all the feedback to amazing effect On the sc front, tilt3d and new guy radu cpusan have some eager energy and positive vibes. Both need some honing but have been refreshing to have active👍
Sonreir 26/05/2023 18:02
Remi still has a ways to go, but I'm glad to hear he's improving. He's very enthusiastic, but I think he still gets on the wrong side of some folks. Need him to talk the line a little more and then we can start spending some more time on some of his more technical issues.
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Zintage Enaka
at the same time why we gated canes from 1dq to there >.>
Sonreir 26/05/2023 18:06
He didn't want to form from DO6 because he didn't want to show his hand. He wanted FRT to think he was doing something else.
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Sonreir
He didn't want to form from DO6 because he didn't want to show his hand. He wanted FRT to think he was doing something else.
Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 18:08
we still arent forming from 1dq for this shit lol there is a reason we have welp deployed we arent even forming mainfleet unless its defensive
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 18:11
Yeah. Room to handle things better in the future, but we're asking him to get more experience in larger ships and he's doing well with it. How else are we going to get him to TC?
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 18:11
we literally have a squad for that havish is the one who told him about the timer
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 18:12
OK. So have him run 'canes with welp and then?
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 18:13
and then after a couple brs tc
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Zintage Enaka
at the same time why we gated canes from 1dq to there >.>
Havish "H" Montak 26/05/2023 21:39
I told him to burn. Don't use wormholes as an excuse not to contest. I want him in fights rather than not pinging at all.
21:42
If he thought of other reasons as well to ping from 1dq1 it shows he's assessing more then the immediate grid too.
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 21:44
That's not the point havish the point was we aren't forming main fleet canes from 1dq to bash jump bridges up north
21:46
The actual combat competence was fine
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Zintage Enaka
That's not the point havish the point was we aren't forming main fleet canes from 1dq to bash jump bridges up north
Sonreir 26/05/2023 21:46
Not really trying to argue the point, but what's the reasoning behind this? We got a fight (which we won), stuck our thumb in the eye of FRT, and had some fun along the way. Doesn't seem too terrible to me...
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 21:48
Because in general that was a fluke cause frat is running a incursion in venal atm sonreir otherwise we are burning goons 30 jumps from 1dq in frats strongest tz
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Sonreir 26/05/2023 21:50
So the primary concern is that we're taking everyone's time to go do something we won't be able to contest?
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 21:52
We have welp squad deployed for a reason going 30 jumps to not contest or be dunked isn't great for main fleet
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Zintage Enaka 26/05/2023 22:01
Also it doesn't need to be strategic for these fleets I just wanna see him actually fc bigger things only so much can be learned from ceptor fleets. The hurricane fleet itself was done fine. it's just kinda stupid it happened
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Zintage Enaka
Also it doesn't need to be strategic for these fleets I just wanna see him actually fc bigger things only so much can be learned from ceptor fleets. The hurricane fleet itself was done fine. it's just kinda stupid it happened
Sonreir 26/05/2023 22:17
I've passed on that feedback and I think Havish has as well.
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admire mirriri 18/06/2023 14:16
acid pinged a HD fleet to block ph kiki coming to delve. He chased the kiki fleet into thera and then enemy territory. I told him shall come back asap because hostile may has reinforcement soon and chasing that far is not hd anymore. It ended up horde 2nd fleet pop up in a moment with a battle. I have no issue he has a fight but need to be wisely to choose the battleground location. (edited)
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https://br.evetools.org/br/648f00cb12a24a19fda91afd
ZO-YJZ (Malpais) 2023-06-18, 15:00 ET
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Havish "H" Montak 18/06/2023 14:58
erm, so AB kikis stocked MWD flycatchers....
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 20/06/2023 20:43
Digging tilt3d whaling action, knows his way around operationally it seems. Hope he's keeping pace with Poco heat gun action
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Remi still has a ways to go, but I'm glad to hear he's improving. He's very enthusiastic, but I think he still gets on the wrong side of some folks. Need him to talk the line a little more and then we can start spending some more time on some of his more technical issues.
admire mirriri 24/06/2023 10:04
Agree, he has a long way to go. Yesterday he requested a HD fleet for a frat fleet in Querious. He cannot catch them and decided to hold the fleet in system for half an hour that causes 1/3 members leaving his fleet due to no activity. He needs to learn how to draw a fight and when is the best time to go home. But I can feel his passion to lead fleets. (edited)
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Havish "H" Montak 25/06/2023 15:09
Remi is very green but very receptive to learning and doing things.
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I liked what he has done in Iyen-Ourstra today
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Havish "H" Montak 25/06/2023 16:05
And ignore him getting dropped by Snuffed.
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Scouts and tackle said nothing and so we couldn't control + space. (edited)
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Havish "H" Montak 13/07/2023 20:02
SC Takeda Sanjo is did a dam fine job taking over after I got headshot.
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apple pear 13/07/2023 20:02
First time i hear that name. Thats good
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Zintage Enaka 13/07/2023 20:03
^^
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apple pear
First time i hear that name. Thats good
Sonreir 13/07/2023 20:16
I haven't seen him do too much yet, but he did reach out to me a little over a month ago after he joined up. He had a lot of good questions about getting started.
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Havish "H" Montak 15/07/2023 15:12
What happened in that Ferox fleet @Jac Dracon ? I'm getting complaints in DMs.
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Feroxes died to retris etc.
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Jac Dracon 15/07/2023 15:24
people not lissening and getting killed
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like example jump 1dq ... 5 times later still sitting off the gate getting shot and not just 1 like 10 people
15:29
people not getting on ancor its one off the worst performance off fleet members i have seen in ages
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and probably i being mean too them so the poor sc does not has too
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Havish "H" Montak 15/07/2023 15:31
Fair enough.
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Just needed to get a fair opinion on the situation.
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Epofhis 27/07/2023 11:54
Ham Norris seems to be doing pretty well in an SC capacity. Good fleet comms, keen, is taking to new concepts and the occasional constructive criticism well. I'd like to see him get some backseat time to see if he can pick up the larger FC concepts.
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Sonreir 27/07/2023 12:11
He's one of the three I'm watching right now. He does a lot of whaling work with tetra and tilt3d, too
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Jac Dracon 27/07/2023 20:21
ham is always asking questions and takes them too, biggest weakness at the moment is lack off being aggressive and decision speed aka too afraid off making a mistake tilt3d has this also they need too get a little quicker on there feet
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admire mirriri 14/08/2023 13:52
Heinrich is being aggesive to the coord team because he did not get the ping out
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I finished dinner, opened the jabber, went to shower and then he gave me a awake pm from heinrich
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(10:44:33 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: I hope this message finds you well. I reached out previously with a question and haven't yet received a response. I understand that everyone is busy, and pings can sometimes be overlooked. I'd be grateful if someone from the team could assist me .Thank you for your time and assistance. I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon. (10:45:18 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: and you can hold it because i ran out of time here :S (10:46:28 PM) [email protected]/5jaexasw8j: hey?? (10:46:59 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: i am just trying to ping some fleets to kill stuff mate thats all (10:47:23 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: both in operations channel and skirm comm (10:47:46 PM) [email protected]/5jaexasw8j: well mate, I just online (10:48:14 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: yea im not pointing any finger (10:48:34 PM) [email protected]/5jaexasw8j: you can see the attention request not including me because I wasnt there :d (10:49:08 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: i see now ye (10:49:41 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: dont you read like old chatter i guess it was 40 min ago (10:49:49 PM) [email protected]/7wwd8axtaz: and its already old intel tbh
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@FC Daycare please deal with it, thank you
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Zintage Enaka 14/08/2023 14:08
i wouldnt say thats being aggressive
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admire mirriri 14/08/2023 14:11
I don't like the rhetorical question 😦 It may damage the relationship 😦
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Havish "H" Montak 14/08/2023 15:29
Talk directly and sort this between you in regards to personal communication. If you need help I can be there in a mumble chat. The idea is to resolve the issue so there is no animosity and to work together in a forward motion in the future.
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admire mirriri 14/08/2023 15:31
All good. It has been sorted. Just put it here for references
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apple pear 19/08/2023 21:18
I'm not happy with our FC's for the moveops. Can we please make sure we don't let 1 day old TC's do it.
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ToasterJane 19/08/2023 21:28
I thought Gnom would be supporting more, he has been a TC forever
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apple pear 19/08/2023 21:29
I don't blame the FC's really. They are to new to know better
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Think this is the first full battleship fleet they deal with.
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ToasterJane 19/08/2023 21:29
outside of the ESS forsure
21:30
Noted for the future
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Sonreir 20/08/2023 03:24
I wasn't there when you were speaking to them. Were there some specific things they can/should work on?
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"Not" Boris 27/08/2023 07:07
Acid just FCd caracals and bombers at the same time successfully
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and it was impressive as fuck
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snipereagle1 27/08/2023 07:14
HUHH
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HUHH
"Not" Boris 27/08/2023 07:18
he executed a bombing run and anchored caracals
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lol
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snipereagle1 27/08/2023 07:18
damn
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admire mirriri 27/08/2023 14:04
I like acid who always having positive attitude to the fleet
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admire mirriri 01/09/2023 16:46
Heinrich did great tonight with eagles vs FRT T3s. He uses correct ammos, switch anchors and use approach hostile FC tactics. He needs improvement in target broadcasting and speak more in the mid of the fight. https://br.evetools.org/br/64f1f775729c9401d4e5882f
LBGI-2 (Fountain) 2023-09-01, 15:00 ET
Battle involved 259 pilots who lost a total of 31.1b isk
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ToasterJane 01/09/2023 16:59
added to his file thank you
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admire mirriri 10/09/2023 15:03
Tonight FRT pinged kiki fleet with t3s. I was preparing HD with notalvin. Ninetales ping his fleet without giving coord a heads up. Can anyone tell him before pinging himself out, he shall first bping coord in ops like if the space is free etc? It is unfair to another tc who puts time to prepare for a fleet out. Thank you (edited)
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop 13/09/2023 10:54
Remi got me a little perturbed tonight, he attempted to hijack phoenix's fleet, disregarded his input and tried to tell a fellow sc "how to" yet didn't appear eager to help with what phoenix asked for him to help with. He also needs to let go of the ptt when he has priority. I understand it's a ESL situation, but 30 second blocks mid fight blocking out line comms is bad form. I don't know if it was a off night for him, but it wasn't a good look.
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Havish "H" Montak 07/10/2023 17:02
@admire mirriri can you give feedback for acidf and jason today in the fleet please
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admire mirriri 07/10/2023 21:46
Ok...will do one soon
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Sonreir 23/10/2023 16:22
Any recent feedback for Remi? I feel like he's remaining active and doing better, but examples would be appreciated.
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Dahhhnlaaddd Shoop
Remi got me a little perturbed tonight, he attempted to hijack phoenix's fleet, disregarded his input and tried to tell a fellow sc "how to" yet didn't appear eager to help with what phoenix asked for him to help with. He also needs to let go of the ptt when he has priority. I understand it's a ESL situation, but 30 second blocks mid fight blocking out line comms is bad form. I don't know if it was a off night for him, but it wasn't a good look.
"Not" Boris 23/10/2023 16:36
this
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hes done it twice in front of me
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ToasterJane 23/10/2023 16:36
He is better mechanically but is missing the understanding part
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admire mirriri 23/10/2023 20:49
The coord team has discussed about remi last week. My opinion is: Remi still cannot do well with battlecruiser doctrine. In last week he tried to chase eni with feroxes and fed 30+ when there is one tc and one fc supported him. He may start understand the fittings but not capable enough when he is at the front stage. However, he has a passion the do fleets and being active. He has more opportunity than others to prove his improvement.
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 03:52
Thoughts on TheManJR (aka LordMike007)? How has he been recently?
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snipereagle1 27/10/2023 03:53
ablobglarezoom
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 03:54
That good, huh?
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snipereagle1 27/10/2023 03:54
same old same old
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 03:56
His activity levels are good. Main problem as I see it is that he frequently yeets his fleet before it's well formed. Any attitude issues?
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Mr Ranger 27/10/2023 04:19
At least once he has asked for doctrines he doesnt have keys to, and he definently seems to jump the gun on trying to send out strat fleets for 5 cruisers in an ESS
04:21
He does try to pivot to anything available in delve intel if his first objective disappears, sometimes to the detriment of the fleet(when delve intel is unreliable and he is chasing like 2 guys)
04:22
I have personally not been on a fleet with him where he would get any semblence of a real fight, only ESS dunks/blueballs
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Sonreir
His activity levels are good. Main problem as I see it is that he frequently yeets his fleet before it's well formed. Any attitude issues?
Zintage Enaka 27/10/2023 09:50
massive attitude issues tbh (edited)
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massive attitude issues tbh (edited)
Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:18
Specifics?
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He came to me and asked for feedback, which isn't something a lot of people do, so I'm trying to get him things to actually work on to improve.
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:21
Yesterday, when I explained why we were not forming for Rodney. he had that sassy little period.
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:21
In SC or on comms? (edited)
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:21
SC
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:21
Thanks. I'll check it out.
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:22
Feedback you can give him is 1) Put effort into your hurf 2) Make sure you have actual fleet comps when you undock
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:23
Both of those have already been done.
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I've also asked him to move his AARs to the Mentorship Discord so we can better see he's taken that information to heart.
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:23
3) learn to stay in your box
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the pinging sacs thing was egregious.
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also if he could go somewhere and not just do home defence fleets with 100 feroxes vs 10 cruisers that would be good
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:25
He has a lot of roams on his record. Low numbers without much happening though.
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He's mostly late USTZ, so things are dead. (edited)
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Zintage Enaka 27/10/2023 16:27
as toaster said he gets sassy when told no its not new and has not gotten better
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:29
I wouldn't have the biggest problem with giving him a TC shot if he can fix the attitude and pass the not be weird in comms test
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 16:30
lol... I love that we have a "weird in comms test" and everyone knows what that means.
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 16:33
exactly, and it's not something that can be given to him as a deliverable
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Sonreir 27/10/2023 18:17
Honestly, that's one of the things I don't like about it.
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ToasterJane 27/10/2023 22:22
Weasel gave positive feedback about Lord mike in the contest today
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said he was helpful and fine in comms
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Epofhis 27/10/2023 22:29
He did good today
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Today would need a pretty big debrief. There was a lot going on.
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Sonreir
Thoughts on TheManJR (aka LordMike007)? How has he been recently?
snipereagle1 31/10/2023 02:55
perfect example of "use your brain":
<@snipereagle1> for? <lord_mike007> 20 or so coming to svm [02:48:27] Kanah Hem > Heavy hitting cruiser gang 5 gates from <url=showinfo:5//30004758>SVM</url>. [02:45:51] sanjiang > Basilisk *6 Cyclone Fleet Issue *12 Gnosis *5 Loki *2 <@snipereagle1> that has ESS written all over it 😛 <lord_mike007> but no one likes feroxes lol i mean ess I can do ferox ab fit and pray we fight on gate <@snipereagle1> i mean i'd take mwd, and tell people to bring their ABs so you can refit if needed
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admire mirriri 03/11/2023 05:16
Lordmike did a good job today to save cap when Sonreir DCed. He step up at the right time and fc the fleet and did correct orders such as approaching enemies. Will keep observe his fc skills.
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Sonreir 03/11/2023 08:08
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Q-02UL (Delve) 2023-11-03, 06:00 ET
Battle involved 67 pilots who lost a total of 2.62b isk
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